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Animal Materials vs Vegan Synthetics | Fibres & Fabrics Part 2

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  1. Aisha Ex

    I LOVE this video. ESPECIALLY the section on wool. There are so many people who are polarized on this issue but I know lots of farmers who love their animals and have a mutually beneficial relationship with them Thank You.

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  2. Rob Harwood

    Regarding silk moths: You may not have been aware of this before, but it's actually quite common for adult moths (and some other insects) to have no mouth parts for feeding. This is not something humans bred into them. They have evolved that way. Several species of moth used this way have no adult mouth parts, such as Samia cynthia, which is probably where this story came from (that humans bred them this way), whereas the most common silk moth, Bombyx mori, has only reduced mouth parts, and does not naturally feed itself during its adult phase (however, it is possible to feed them manually, apparently).

    The main point is that the natural life-cycle of these moths involves the adults not feeding, only breeding, and then dying of starvation. This is a naturally evolved strategy for reproducing faster than other moths that need to take time to feed themselves, meaning they spend less time mating, and risk being killed by predation during feeding. I'll add a couple Wikipedia links in a reply to this comment, for reference.

    Please note that I am not claiming that 'peace' silk harvesting is thus ethical — because honestly I don't know anything else about it but what I learned in this video, and a bit on Wikipedia — I'm only saying that the story about humans breeding them to starve is almost certainly a misunderstanding of someone who wasn't familiar with the evolution of moths. So, that argument does not 'make' this kind of harvesting unethical, since humans did not make this change to the moths. The moths themselves evolved this way over thousands or maybe millions of years.

    (Still sounds like a horrific existence to me, but nobody said Nature can't be horrifying. 😨 There's a famous short story called "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" by Harlan Ellison, which comes to mind! 😶💭😱 But who knows, maybe mouthless moths simply don't feel hungry and die peacefully. 🤔 Maybe, because the adult phase is the breeding phase, they actually enjoy their existence. 😲 Who knows? 🤷‍♂️

    Well, if anyone would know, it would be an entomologist who studies these moths (they are very well-studied!). Maybe in your research, you might find some information about it from one.)

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  3. Renad

    This is kind of help because i was trying to find a fabric that’s vegan and eco friendly but it was overwhelming when i searched by myself so thank you

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  4. Andi Bede

    Hey, nice video. I would only add that the best way to decrease your environmental impact is reducing to a minimum the stuff you think you need (in this case clothes). I checked out your channel and saw that you have some nice videos about capsule wardrobes, I'll watch them as well. I just wanted to say that no matter if you buy new or second, only buy something when you really need it and make sure it flatters you and can be worn for many seasons, not just one. That way, fewer animals contribute to your wardrobe and less petrol is needed to make what you wear. This is also valid for everything else (accessories, toys, electronics, food and water containers, decorations etc).

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  5. Elizabeth Hartwick

    Looking for naturally tanned leather? Look at the edge, if it has a white strip on the cut edge DON'T BUY IT! Same color through? Good to go!

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  6. Ponderous Prose

    As someone who is now gradually developing a "more vegan/vegetarian" lifestyle, I believe the notion of "buying second-hand" is a cop-out. Knowlingly purchasing something that is expressly non-vegan (but at a second-hand rate) does NOT exclude you from the vegan obligation.

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  7. Veggie Magnifique

    Thank you so so much for making this video and for being so clear and cogent in your explanations. There are SO many aspects to think about when we buy anything, it's, frankly, kind of overwhelming. Thank you for giving us solutions (thrifting! etc.) and not just oversimplifying this complicated subject. As a vegan, I have struggled with this dilemma. I have chosen to not fret about what I bought in the past and just gradually (and mindfully) get rid of things and replace them with more sustainable and eco products as much as possible. (And also do clothes swaps with girl friends whenever possible.) Thanks again, Ann from Veggie Magnifique

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  8. Morgan Olfursson

    get material from small organic material farm, which do not hurt any animal and produce the material without the use of any chemical . Those farms are everywhere . The only reason people do not purchase from them is because they refuse to pay 20 dollars for a Tshirt . I am a veterinarian and vegan (of course) and not only will i only buy organic vegan food , i will also only buy organic vegan clothes . And if i have to pay 2000 dollars for a suit , then so be it .
    Besides . Second hand vintage clothes are the best alternative . Or you can buy old fabric bolt have them cleaned and sewn into the clothe you want .
    The problem is not the environmental or ethical issue , it is the fact that people want new and cheap . Which is the best recipe for disaster . Get old vintage second hand stuff, from clothes to furniture etc, and eat organic and vegan . Or get ready to pay a lot more than the average person . If we ALL buy from organic vegan farms , then those farms will grow and the food and clothes will become a lot cheaper , but we have to make the conscious decision to chose ethic over pricetag .

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  9. Jørgen Benjamin Windborg Larsen

    Silk.
    the ethical part of silk production conserning the silk worms takes a lot of focus, but aside from the killing of the worms, production of silk is very sustainable. It dont use a lot of space for the silkworms to grow, and the leaf used to feed the worms uses a lot less farmland then either hemp or flax. the boiled worms are also used as food in a lot of asian countries so there is minimal amount of waste. This is also ideal as a lot of western countries like finland and the Netherlands that are trying to inploment more insects in their diet.
    I feel silk got a lot of negative attention, unfortuntly.

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  10. Dinal Abay

    Never encourage the murder of animals – even buying second hand animal skins creates a demand for it. After-all the animal is murdered for its skin which is totally fucked up, just because you didn't buy it brand new doesn't mean it you can dissociate yourself from responsibility. PVC and PU even though it uses fossil fuels doesn't involve the murder of animals, therefore it is a way better alternative and cruelty free.

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  11. GoRa死

    first video is okay, this one is effortless, when making visual aids ,you don't go for visuals in the expense of the aid "which is the info"
    dislike it's like you are not even trying, when in reality it's harder editing and it looks better it had more effort put into it
    pro vs cons in one screen is the only way to go when presenting sweet little girl, i would expect nothing less from a vegan

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  12. Asheq Waziri

    You really deserve more viewers! Try to go to a seminar about marketing or learn from big youtubers how to get there because you deserve it! Sometimes a change of strategy can change the outcome

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  13. Ruth Y.

    Could you please explain how does shopping second hand play a part in not supporting wool production? Are we not indirectly buying wool too?

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  14. Sabīne Tropa

    Dog wool can be used as an alternative to sheep wool. Dogs are not harmed, the wool is made from combing the dogs and gathering the hair that gets in the brush.

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  15. Sydd Linden

    You're tips are always great.

    I'm surprised you didn't mention whether leather is often produced via by products of the food industry. That would be the logical source, but industry is often lacking in basic logic. :/

    The trick with wool is also to look local and visit the farms personally and see how the farmers treat their animals. Smaller farms treat their animals like family and care for them for the long term. (As I typed this, you mentioned it yourself about yarn. ^_^)
    OMG! I have to check out that rescue company! That's awesome!! 😀

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  16. Andrew Hare

    I'm glad she didn't go all out on how bad animal products and great vegan stuff is. I'm also glad she did say that animal fibers can be kind and how damaging synthetic stuff is.

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  17. Jessica Gonçalves

    One more thing: no animal product is cruelty free. It is impossible to animal exploration of any kind to be cruelty free.
    Just for those who are thinking about the subject.. 🙂

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  18. Jessica Gonçalves

    Raising animals in a large scale it's not sustainable either, so I'm pretty sure that the synthetics versions are still a better option due to the animal exploration and so.

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  19. Maxim C.

    Thank you a lot for giving me the idea of buying second-hand not synthetic fabrics and leather. I really don't like the idea of using animal-derived clothes, but I also don't like the idea of using synthetic clothes — they are so much worse in terms of the useful qualities/characteristics and by buying them I would be supporting harmful chemical industries and devastating pollution of the environment…

    Again: great, great video guide.

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  20. Plant Based Bride

    Thank you for putting together this video! I never buy animal products, and have started to prioritize sustainable options for anything I buy.

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  21. smajlik1

    I think animal cruelty in silk production is questionable, because insect doesn't feel pain. Of course there is no talk about cruelty when it comes to mosquitos, cockroaches, woodworms etc. But from my point of view there isn't any difference except silk worms are bred on purpose.

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  22. Elizabeth Lwanga

    Thanks so much for putting this video series together! I'm a seamstress, and I try my best to use recycled materials. But sometimes that's not possible, and this series is really helping me environmentally prioritize my textiles.

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  23. nadi67

    By buying second hand leather products you still 'support' the leather industry and cruelty, because somebody still makes money out of it and they think it is ok to sell it because they make money out of it… plus as a role model to other people you shouldn't use it. Because they see something, they like what you wearing or  and buy it brand new because they don't know it is 'second hand'…

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  24. Kind Coconut

    Thank you for yet another well-research and thoughtful video, Verena! I really appreciate your pros/cons analysis and mindful conclusions. Please keep the videos coming!

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