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No Filming on Farms


Oh, my God. Oh, my God. A woman records what appears to be a live cow being pushed by a bulldozer. On that bulldozer? Yes. He’s alive. She was filming from public land. The farm owner drove up and confronted her. You cannot videotape my property from public property Why are you concerned about being filmed if you have no problem, you think this is a legitimate business? It is a legitimate business. Utah prosecutors charged the woman with “agricultural operation interference.” Am I free to leave or am I being detained? You’re being detained. But she was on public land. They dropped the charges several months later. [Cow mooing] But what if she’d sneaked on to a farm to record what she considered animal abuse? More than a hundred such investigations have been done. Activists pose as farm workers and secretly record the way animals are treated. An animal rights group released this undercover video of the dairy farm. It shows workers hitting, kicking, and throwing young calves. We are not showing the most disturbing parts of the video. Farmers, upset up about these recordings, are persuading politicians to essentially outlaw these undercover investigations. The controversial Ag-Gag law the sixth state to pass an Ag-Gag law. There are activists stalking farms to try to capture something that the public doesn’t understand. Kay Johnson Smith speaks for a farm group that supports the ag-gag laws, though they don’t call them that. We would call it farm protection. Farm protection. What about everybody else? Why do you get special protection? The agricultural community is the only business community that this sort of tactic is really being used on right now. I’m an investigative reporter, I can’t do my job if there are laws that prevent me from showing things. Nobody believes it if you don’t see it. These activist groups want to eliminate all of animal agriculture. Brittany you’re holding a dead body This group livestreams its protests on Facebook. You saw a dumpster with hundreds of dead birds? Many of the activists stormed into the farm. Some stole some of the baby ducklings. We were just able to rescue almost 30 baby ducks. Others chained themselves to the entrance of the farm [Music] Later the activists released this video of the 30 stolen ducklings, adding music, and showing the birds running around, apparently happy [Music] They stole these ducks after seeing this earlier undercover video of injured ducks at the farm. Mercy for Animals says their undercover investigations have led to criminal charges. Ag-gag laws often prevent such investigations– which is why farm states pass them. A bill making it illegal to apply for a job in a farming operation under false pretenses. But what about free speech? Ag-gag laws chill speech. Lawyer Amanda Howell speaks for the Animal Legal Defense Fund, a group that says ag-gag laws are unconstitutional. And they did get several states’ laws struck down. Iowa, then, just passed a new law. Ag-Gag 2.0. A bipartisan bill trying again to stop people from lying to get onto farms. These groups are exposing issues that are happening. If they really cared about animals, they would stop it right then. Instead, they go weeks and months without reporting anything to the farm owners. That’s true. This investigation went on for months. Agriculture groups now are pushing laws that would force activists to report abuse quickly. Why don’t they? They want to make their movie. They want to make their sensational video. It’s because they care about the animals that they want to show that that’s something that happens every day on these farms Consistent, constant, abuse A company can say, “This is a one-off.” This is not just discrete actors. This is company policy. They say they don’t want to just correct the abuse on that farm. They want to change all farming practices. What they really want is to stop people from eating meat, milk, and eggs. Do you want people to stop eating meat? I want people to act in their conscience. But you didn’t really the question. Do you want people to stop eating meat or eggs? I think that… again … I… I… [laughs] Are we asking… sorry… Are we asking me personally or asking the Animal Legal Defense Fund? She never did give a direct answer Workers in a turkey farm abusing the birds Animal rights activists have exposed things that need exposing. Wal-Mart now taking a stand when it comes to the treatment of farm raised animals. How else would you have made these changes without sneaking into your farms? Well, that’s to say that farmers can’t be trusted and I think that everyone- And in the past, some could not. There are bad apples in every industry. However, I would say 99.9% of farmers in America They do the right thing every single day. Farming isn’t always pretty. [Farm sounds] People have some right to privacy, no? I think we should all be worried when corporations are supporting laws that impinge our right to free speech. We should worry, whatever you think of the activists, and I have problems with many of them, government shouldn’t pass special laws that prevent people from revealing what’s true.

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  1. Rccamo3 Author

    This is a messy situation… Mistreating animals is horrible, and evil, but for some things, they are food animals and making farming practices more difficult and more expensive will raise the cost of meats, dairy, and other animal food products. Some of these crazy shit eaters really just want to take away people's ability to get to eat meat… And they talk about freedoms… On the other hand, in the cases there is true animal abuse, those people are heartless assholes who should be punished, even if its just food animals. Mistreatment like that is uncalled for.

    This is just a fucked up and messy situation that both sides need to be fixed.

    This is why I like John Stossel so much, shows the real shit, both sides of the argument. Excellent work, keep it up. If the world had more people like you, it would be such a better place. Even when I disagree with some of your content, it is really informative and I'm happy to watch.

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  2. Chad Brassard Author

    I know this post might never be seen. But farmers live on private land and conduct private business. It's wrong to stalk a person on their land and film them without their consent. How about next time when you take a shower I'll be there with a camera to take pictures and share them with the media at large. If you want to help farmers and their livestock, report abuse to the landowners and how the workers treat the live stock. Believe me, those animals are more valuable to farmers healthy and well cared for then beaten and abused. So remember, want a photo shoot in your bathroom, keep off private land unless asked or invited. Stossle I love your work! Keep bringing the real news to the people!

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  3. R Schmidt Author

    I love eating meat as much as the next guy, but animal abuse to this degree shouldn’t be happening. I understand it’s a tough job but there’s no excuse for mistreating animals inhumanely, and they should be investigated fairly.

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  4. XxMIKExFAILZxX Author

    Look I understand what they're doing, but meat eaters will not stop being meat eaters. Sure the ag gag laws are extremely against the constitution of the 1st amendment.

    They'll probably just make stricker rules of care.

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  5. Darth Joshua 66 Author

    I’m not a crazy vegan who thinks animals should be treated like humans or better. But they shouldn’t be harmed and abused before slaughter

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  6. SimonTek Author

    Can we get rid of the law that says we can't sell milk unless we produce 30+ gallons per day. A cow produces 5-6 gallons per day easy. A goat will produce about a gallon per day

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  7. Chris Nolin Author

    Why not just remove animal cruelty as a law? Make it a voluntary sticker to put on packaged meat "no animal hurt at this farm" and let people vote with their dollars. No need for ag gag laws. Some farms could even be audited by activist groups if they choose, to get a 3rd party verification. No government intervention required.

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  8. DethHasArrived Author

    I love a good juicy steak, and milk with my cookies. But the animals shouldn’t be a abused and made to suffer. Good treatment and a quick painless end.

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  9. Death 1 Author

    I always believed that people who abused animals for fun need to get a psychological check-up cause they most likely more in line with psychopaths and serial killers with their enjoyment of something suffering.

    No animal needs to be subject to unnecessary suffering they already being used to feed us so we should at least treat them with respect and make it as quick and painless as possible.

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  10. MountainDrew Author

    Not all farmers are the same, most won't do anything like this my grandad threatened to kick the shit out of a farmhand if he so much as tazed a cow to get it into the trailer.

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  11. Kenneth Bowers Author

    The government doesn't wanna stop the wrong doers because it makes them money, crime in general makes the government money… It's all about money folks so stop pretending the government gives a single grain about you or your interests.

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  12. Gölök Z L F Buday Author

    Yeah the question does come to mind, when does it hit a wall and turn from speech to fraud. Video taping, but faking your identity? I would say, that if it's individual to corporate machine I would still side with the individual. I just wonder about the means being implemented by these people.

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  13. andrew T Author

    4:15.

    Dude, that lady who fought for the animal rights activists just lost her side of the argument.

    Yeah, ill be voting to put that ag gag law in motion.

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  14. hdtvcamera1 Author

    I like steak. I like chicken. I like pork. But farmers should treat their animals humanely banning reporting is unconstitutional.

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  15. Antin Imperio Author

    Yes, but you shouldn't be allowed to go on someone's private property without their approval. If they expose something illegal both the farmer and the person filming should be charged for their separate crimes (the latter for breaking into someone's private property).

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  16. Amiga Wolf Author

    Sorry i can't even see what the bulldozer is pushing, what is recorded is to far and the quality is very bad because she used digital zoom, and the movement of the camera is very bad.

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  17. ThisIsntLloyd Author

    Treat the animals with respect, they taste better and make us feel better. Also some of the treatment these animals receive is appalling

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  18. MrMundo3d Author

    Why is so hard 4:20 just said , yes or no, if i were there i would said No, if company slaughter animal safer, with no contamination, but again their profit vs safer, you see cases with tons of beef recall due to contamination, this could came from abuse, i don't know i'm not a former just a financial accounting

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  19. Joseph Mills Author

    See I don’t have a problem with people investigating farms, but I hate the activist who raid farms and steal animals. Personally I am adult enough to understand that farm work is not pretty. When you’re working with livestock you have to get physical with them. I don’t loose any sleep about a cow being kicked into its pen.

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  20. valerie H Author

    I grew up on a dairy farm and in summer worked on a bigger diary farm. We never treated an animal with anything but love. This pisses me off😡

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  21. Claire de Luna Author

    people may be recording these incidences to support their agenda yet it is the truth of what is happening and people need to aware of it regardless of what they decide to do with the information. All humans, vegans and meat eaters, do not like to see animals being abused. This should not happen and the only way we can begin to stop it is to be aware of it.

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  22. A wild Tanner was found Author

    I feel bad for the animals, as I have many pets, but stealing them just to make a ‘happy’ video supporting your cause is horrible.

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  23. Orange Scrubs! with Orange Author

    I don't know about you guys but I don't want activist filming me beating my wife, I ain't going to jail for animal abuse

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  24. Gunnar Gardner Author

    Most people nowadays are disconnected and dont know what go's on In the dairy industry but then they film a video and call it animal cueletry when they dont understand what the reason is for example the cow being pushed by the skid steer probably broke a leg and had to be moved to a place where the farmer could give it special care

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  25. the Emperor of man Author

    The laws in America actually make me scared to buy American Products where I'm from so I just used to stay away from even if it cost a little bit more to know that the animals being treated right is worth the money

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  26. James B. Armstrong Author

    I have heard of instances where these people posed as workers to abuse the animals while others of there group filmed in order to make these farms look like they were mistreating the animals.

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  27. Novaximus Author

    People should and are allowed to eat meat but that doesn't give a green light to treat the animals inhumanely. All life dies. Life needs to eat life to live. But let the living live their lives in happiness while they exist. And this is not to confuse the point that all life IS NOT equal. There's a huge difference between a fly that lives a week and a cow that lives 25 years. And even still there's a difference between an intelligent dog that lives 15 years and a chicken that doesn't know the meaning of friend.

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  28. AdultToons Author

    Why is it so hard to answer a simple question? It's not even a "gotcha" question @ 4:10. I'm against animal cruelty but I'm not against people eating meat, eggs, etc. smfh

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  29. domitry jobby Author

    I do believe that we should be more conscious of an animal life. I have a farm and I treat my animals with respect and care. They also have feelings and beating, clicking and throwing them like bags of dirt should not be permitted. Not only is inhumane, I think is also stupid. That way an animal can easely get hurt, grow slower and produce less meat and less tasty meat as well since stress hormones change the taste as well

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  30. Lee Calhoun Author

    She wouldnt answer the question so clearly there is an ulterior motive. The blonde lady is right about these people. They just want farms shut down and to get media attention.

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  31. Lord Gilby's Standard Definition Playground Author

    Animal Abuse is Wrong, but tresspassing on private property is also wrong. Also chaining yourself to the farm gates to prevent buisness operations is wrong too.

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  32. TOUGH MAN RANDY SAVAGE Author

    IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO RECORD ON SOMEBODY'S PRIVATE LAND. END OF STORY. But I am completely against animal abuse and some of the stuff that goes on in these farms are horrifying. But if your job was killing animals all day every day I believe you would start to view the animals in a different way. These people don't view these animals the way normal people do they view them as a product and nothing more. They are desensitized to the abuse and just view it as doing they're job. It's still disgusting and awful but I thought I would throw my 2 cents in.

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  33. K E B A B Author

    In this case, I dont think its about "preventing people from revealing whats true" more than trying to protect farmers from people trying to break and enter into their private property and steal their livestock. And at the same time, the public may not understand the industry and make assumptions based on emotions rather than facts

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  34. paul cos Author

    Being an Owner of Farm and any Business. There is always bad apple to the employees. No matter what rules you make, someone will break. Even if we had death penalty, their are still criminals. Don't involved the whole system or company for one persons mistake. If you see someone did wrong, Tell him its wrong. We had names, name that person who did it wrong.

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  35. PokéWeeD Lover; Author

    I feeL s0 BAD 4those poor animals:( i think the pepole trying 2stop the video's just dont want the public 2C wat these animals have to go through

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  36. Philip Martin Author

    Watched this while eating a steak. No regrets. If you don't want to eat a steak or chicken, that's fine. But stop pushing your retardation on others.

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  37. 1234Daan4321 Author

    Both sides seem shit. One side hurt animals without reason, other side want to force me to eat unhealthy. We should be hunting instead. Let animals roam freely in the wild. Take a few out every now and then for food. Plenty of animals to go around if we take care of preserving nature and the environment.

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  38. B Folds Author

    As someone who eats meat and uses animal products, no farmer that is proud of how they run their farm and treat their animals should be afraid of this to the point that legislation is needed.

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  39. Trevor Meed Author

    I hate to say it but this is just another industry being subjected to corporate ideology, where small companies/farms suffer and fail while the giant corporations benefit

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  40. Slavic Soldier Author

    Sorry Stossel but I`m with the farmers on this one. Fuck this animal abuse bs. My family used to own a slaughterhouse and a farm and bottom line is shit happens. Most of those who complain are over privileged over entitled people that haven`t faced the real world. The problem isn`t people filming from public land it`s people trespassing,lying to you or trying to tell you what to do with your property(the animals) coz they`re oversensitive. That`s their own personal problem and it shouldn`t be ours.

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  41. Mark Wallis Author

    I love meat and won't stop eating it, but I hate cruelty, there's no need for it in farming. In fact, being cruel to an animal is counter productive, you will end up with lower quality product.

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  42. Yoshidude64 Author

    Some of these clips make it look like the workers are being rough with the animals, but the animals are often not bothered too much by it. In other cases, some of these guys do go way to far

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  43. the250mikec Author

    Think I'm having a stroke. Was that not a one sided hit piece? What just happened? I'm going to have an independent thought based on information! Going to the hospital now

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  44. Classic Joe Author

    This has got to be fake news. Those activists would never go undercover. Because, that would mean they'd have to apply for a job and then actually show up.

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  45. bigblockin427 Author

    hey John maybe you should do a story on how this lady can get arrested on public property videotaping which is the first amendment protected activity and how this seems to be able to happen all across the country everyday and the officers that are able to violate citizens rights and nothing happens

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  46. AJ S Author

    It is essential that we see how the sausage is made. I’m a meat eater and I hate peta, but these laws are ridiculous. Good farmers don’t mind you coming in with a camera crew, it’s usually only those giant corporate owned farms that have something to hide. Surprise!

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  47. hellavadeal Author

    if someone working on my dad's farm treated animals like this video showed, they would have been ran off.
    These videos are filmed at corporate farms owned by big companies, not family farms. Sadly family farms are going the way of the dino.

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  48. Christian S Author

    It would be more realistic to continue consuming meat milk and eggs but flood these places with people who are able to care for animals as opposed to harming them.

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  49. Hissy Honker Author

    I was never charged but I got fired from a Colorado farm when I was 17 for using my revolver barrel to beat a hand over the head a few times for tossing a calf onto a truck.
    It doesn't happen all the time or often but it does happen.. some places depending on owner expressly forbids it while others either don't care or are just mean spirited

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  50. Sweet Joe Author

    I do really like that ppl can't film without permission here. it would be nice if we could just trust each other, but the bad faith activists have ruined that and now because of the precedent set we have to assume that everyone is trying to attack farmers. its not pretty, but its good that farmers can protect themselves.

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